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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.sci.physics.new-theories
Subject: AntiGravity / Biefeld-Brown
Date: 4 Jan 94 01:17:07 GMT



   High voltage sources: Try an Van De Graaf generator, or you might be able
to get the needed voltages from a bunch of transformers and wall current.
I think people more experienced on this issue are reading this discussion.



  Concerning the Earth's magnetic field as the basis of the Biefeld-Brown
effect, if the idea wasn't killed enough, one more coffin nail: Note that
the work done by a magnetic field upon a magnetic dipole (bar magnet thing)
is torque (rotation), and not linear motion, as we do get in this instance.



   Scalar waves need not be instantaneous at all. Sound is a good example of
one. It is a scalar; the wave varies the pressure, which is a scalar.



   Someone asked me for information sources. Of many, my best info comes from

   Brown: Electrokinetic Propulsion infolio, ~80 pg. ~$10?
   Rex Research, Box 19250, Jean NV 89019
   Contains old articles and patent reprints and stuff.

   File 24-185 The Townsend Brown Electro-Gravity device (Comprehensive
   evaluation by the Office of Naval Research, with accompanying docs.
   ~26 pg., $10, from William Moore, 4219 West Olive Ave., Suite #247
   Burbank CA 91505. I have had problems with this guy; an order missing
   for three years. Caveat Emptor.



  It was said:

>> >Is Brown's the patent from 1959?  (2,949,550?)  I read through that one,
>> and didn't see any
>> >mention of anti-gravity, just of a mysterious effect.  Is anti-gravity
>> another person's
>> >interpretation of Brown's results, or did I just miss that part in the
>> patent? >

The connection to gravity was claimed by Brown himself in Science and
Invention Magazine, Aug 29, and also in the New York Times 18 Feb 29.
The former is reprinted in the above mentioned infolio.




...and it was also noted that

>     This effect works best at just before the point that the air breaks down
>and an arc happens.  About 6 inches of seperation and enough voltage to not
>quite jump the distance works well.
>
>     When one operates this experiement, one will notice copious quantites of
>ozone are produced, which being heavier than O2, provide boyancy and thus the
>weight loss effect.
>
>     Now, if you enclose the entire mess in a plastic bag, you'll find that
>it no longer gets lighter (when you weigh the O3 generated along with the
>apparatus), which in my view proves this effect is ONLY the result of boyancy
>resulting from O3 production.

This runs counter to the ion wind explanation, promoted by the US Navy 1952
investigation into this effect, known as the Biefeld-Brown effect.

Ionization means a breakdown of air. Once air is ionized, it is broken from a
dielectric into charge carriers. I believe that a corona discharge accompanies
this. Then the effect accompanies the corona, and does not precede it.

The B-Brown effect has been noted to force the capacitor in horizontal
directions, meaning that the weight difference between O2 and O3 is not a
factor.

More experimentation is in order! Do I have any takers?



I ask the next poster to set the followup to include
alt.sci.physics.new-theories, since this discussion belongs there too. I don't
know how to do this; I tried and failed.

-------
Charles Hope      [e-mail]   n13cc@cunyvm

"I say glob it on ladies, go for it!" -- Tammy Faye Baker




From: [e-mail] (Swen Ruge;WMD GmbH)
Subject: Re: AntiGravity / Biefeld-Brown
Date: 4 Jan 94 14:00:06 GMT
Lines: 95


I found this in the "krill.papers"-file from ftp.rutgers.edu:/pub/ufo/:

# Gravitational Propulsion
#
#     Well, I have gotten this far in explaining some things to
# you. I might as well turn to my favorite subject of all --
# gravitational propulsion. The best place to start is with the
# efforts of a personal acquaintance of mine who had the good
# fortune to meet in England -- Mr. J. R. Searl. His investigations
# into gravitational propulsion have proven to be quite revealing --
# he's done it, and I want to tell you about it.
#      In 1949, he was employed by the Midlands Board as an
# electronic fitter. He was very enthusiastic about the subject of
# electricity, though he had no formal education on the subject
# other than was required by his job. Unhindered by conventional
# ideas about electricity, he carried out his own investigation into
# the subject. During work on electrical motors and generators, he
# noticed that a small electromotive force (EMF) was produced by the
# spinning metal parts -- the negative toward the outside and the
# positive toward the rotational axis.
#      In 1950, he experimented with rotating slip rings and
# measured a small EMF on a conventional meter. He also noticed that
# when the rings were spinning freely and no electrical current was
# taken, his hair bristled. His conclusions were that free electrons
# in the metal were spun out by centrifugal force being produced by
# the static field in the metal. He then decided to build a
# generator on the same principle.
#      It had a segmented rotor disc, passing through electromagnets
# at its periphery. The electromagnets were energized from the
# rotor, and were intended to boost the EMF.
#      By 1952, the first generator had been constructed and was
# about three feet in diameter. It was tested in the open by Searl
# and a friend. The armature was set in motion by a small engine.
# The device produced the expected electrical power, but at an
# unexpectedly high potential. At relatively low armature speeds a
# potential of the order of 10^5 volts was produced, as indicated by
# static effects on nearby objects.
#      The really unexpected then occurred. While still speeding up,
# the generator lifted and rose to a height of about 50 feet above
# the ground, breaking the union between itself and the engine. Here
# it stayed for a while, still speeding up and surrounding itself
# with a pink glow. This indicated ionization of air at a much
# reduced pressure of about 10^-3 mm Hg. More interesting was the
# side effect, causing local radio receivers to go on by themselves.
# Finally, the whole generator accelerated at a fantastic rate and
# is thought to have gone off into space.
#      Since that day, Searl and others have made some ten or more
# small flying craft, some of which have been similarly lost, and
# have developed a form of control. Larger craft have been built --
# some 12 feet and two 30 feet in diameter.
#      Once the machine has passed a certain threshold of potential
# voltage, the energy output exceeds the input. The energy output
# seems to be virtually limitless. We made some measurements when I
# was there, and as far as we could see, the estimated output is
# somewhere in the vicinity of 10^13 to 10^15 watts. Above what
# appears to be the threshold potential, some 10^13 volts, the
# generator and attached parts become inertia-free. There is also
# some "matter snatch" upon acceleration away from the ground, since
# it tends to take a little "turf" with it when it goes.
#      Analyzing what is happening is fairly easy. What the
# generator is doing is placing a "stress" on the ambient space
# around it. The space breaks down to provide the magnetism to
# relieve the stress, but the energy by-product is absorbed by the
# generator, which reinforces the field.
#      It should be noted at this point that only a very small
# amount of space fabric passes through the craft and an even
# smaller amount is converted for energy. However, I have noticed
# that small changes in etheric forces lead to large physical
# effects. It was aptly demonstrated and I was impressed.
#      Recently, Mr. Searl had (1987) a brush with authorities, when
# he began simply generating his own power for his own house. Now he
# doesn't have a very large house, but the Utility Board didn't like
# the fact that they had lost their monopoly. Now he lives in
# Birmingham under an assumed name. Simple, eh?
#
#
# Digitized by, and available from, IllumiNet BBS -- 4043771141


Could it be that this guy was using the Biefeld-Brown-Efect?

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From: [e-mail] (Robert Dinse)
Subject: Re: AntiGravity / Biefeld-Brown
Summary: Sound is NOT scaler
Date: 6 Jan 94 07:03:52 GMT
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever


In article <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:
>    Scalar waves need not be instantaneous at all. Sound is a good example of
> one. It is a scalar; the wave varies the pressure, which is a scalar.

     Not true, sound is a VECTOR wave because it has both an amplitude AND
direction.  The pressure wave you speak of has a direction of propogation.

     Any wave that is not instanteous would have a direction of propogation
and hence NOT be scaler.  I can determine the direction of propogation by
timing the arrival at various points.






From: [e-mail] (David DeLaney)
Subject: Re: AntiGravity / Biefeld-Brown
Date: 6 Jan 94 13:47:55 GMT
Organization: U. Tenn. Knoxville/Physics Dept.


[e-mail] (Robert Dinse) writes:
><[e-mail]> writes:
>>    Scalar waves need not be instantaneous at all. Sound is a good example of
>> one. It is a scalar; the wave varies the pressure, which is a scalar.
>     Not true, sound is a VECTOR wave because it has both an amplitude AND
>direction.  The pressure wave you speak of has a direction of propogation.
>     Any wave that is not instanteous would have a direction of propogation
>and hence NOT be scaler.  I can determine the direction of propogation by
>timing the arrival at various points.

nope; you misunderstand. Sound is a scalar wave because you need only specify
one quantity at each spacetime point (they're "longitudinal"). The "propagation
vector" is a vector because it is the gradient of the scalar function, and is
the *velocity* of the particles. The "direction" only shows up because of the
time derivative or space derivative involved. Lightwaves are a vector wave,
because you need more than one number at each spacetime point to describe the
wave (they are transverse waves, so you need two instead of three numbers), and
they have an intrinsic direction at each point in spacetime, which sound waves
do not. Gravitational waves are tensor quantities, because they transform as a
tensor product of two vectors, and you need more numbers than you would for a
vector wave at each point in spacetime to specify them (specifically, they're
quadrupole waves).

Dave "graduate physics 101" DeLaney
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From: [e-mail] (David DeLaney)
Subject: Re: AntiGravity / Biefeld-Brown
Date: 7 Jan 94 10:08:32 GMT
Organization: U. Tenn. Knoxville/Physics Dept.


[e-mail] (Paul DeLong) writes:
>[e-mail] (David DeLaney) writes:
>>...
>>time derivative or space derivative involved. Lightwaves are a vector
>>wave,  because you need more than one number at each spacetime point
>>to describe the wave (they are transverse waves, so you need two
>>instead of three numbers), and they have an intrinsic direction at
>>each point in spacetime, which sound waves do not. Gravitational waves
>>are tensor quantities, because they transform as a tensor product of
>>two vectors, and you need more numbers than you would for a vector
>>wave at each point in spacetime to specify them (specifically, they're
>>quadrupole waves).

>Could electromagnetic waves also be considered quadrupole waves, since
>the electromagnetic equations are tensor equations?

Nope. "Vector" and "scalar" are particular *types* of tensor; "tensor"
is generally used for quantities that aren't describable by "vector" or
"scalar", although vectors and scalars are tensor quantities.
E&M waves are dipole waves. Gravity waves are quadrupole, because you need
two tensor indexes to describe them versus one for E&M waves. Clearer now?

Dave "I won't go into `traceless quadrupole' here" DeLaney
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Dinse)
Subject: Re: AntiGravity / Biefeld-Brown
Summary: Context
Date: 8 Jan 94 08:41:21 GMT
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever


In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Steven Zins) writes:
> [e-mail] (Robert Dinse) writes:
>
> >In article <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:
> >>    Scalar waves need not be instantaneous at all. Sound is a good example of
> >> one. It is a scalar; the wave varies the pressure, which is a scalar.
>
> >     Not true, sound is a VECTOR wave because it has both an amplitude AND
> >direction.  The pressure wave you speak of has a direction of propogation.
>
> >     Any wave that is not instanteous would have a direction of propogation
> >and hence NOT be scaler.  I can determine the direction of propogation by
> >timing the arrival at various points.
>
> In general usage, the term wave usually implies a traveling wave going in
> some direction of propagation.  A standing wave such as a string on a
> violin is a separate, although related, case.

     Herein lies the difficulty, this is NOT general usage, but rather refers
to scaler "waves" as the term was used in an article in Scientific American
a while back and also in much fringe-science material, and in this context it
means a field or wave (and wave isn't really accurate in this context but that
is what they have chosen to call them) is one with amplitude but not direction.

     This scaler wave phenomena is associated in fringe-science circles with
many interesting properties that are used by "free energy" systems, anti-
gravity systems, weather modifying systems, etc.  In legitimate science circles
it is related to electro-magnetic fields in some fundamental underlying way
that I don't fully understand.

     Let's not turn this into a semantics war, what you are referring to is a
totally unrelated idea in a totally unrelated context.





From: [e-mail] (David Jonsson)
Subject: Re: AntiGravity / Biefeld-Brown
Date: 10 Jan 94 22:49:21 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University


This is possible. Look at the superconductor and ideal diamagnetism.
Only when the applied field is exactly as strong and reversed as the external
field a torque free force can be accomplished. This is the Meissner effect.
Now how big is the lifting force of the earths magnetic field if we apply
a reversed of the same strength? I assume it is like 10^-5 N/m2. Not very
much to exploit commercially. What happens when we come far from earth?
What magnetic field is there?

We can apply a stronger reversed field but need in this case som gyros to
stabilise us and to reverse the torque force. Can someone tell me about the
strongest possible gyrostabilizers. Are they mentioned in Guiness Book of
Records? If a good gyro was anchored to the magnetic device maybe a lift
could be acheived.

Another way of making gravity less (but not reverse it) is to rotate
an object. General Relativity says the object will be less attracted
to eart than a stationary one.


David

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From: [e-mail] (Christophe Meessen)
Subject: Re: AntiGravity / Biefeld-Brown
Date: 11 Jan 94 10:51:12 GMT
Organization: Centre de Physique des Particules de Marseille


In article <2gsm1h$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David Jonsson) writes:
> This is possible. Look at the superconductor and ideal diamagnetism.
> Only when the applied field is exactly as strong and reversed as the external
> field a torque free force can be accomplished. This is the Meissner effect.
> Now how big is the lifting force of the earths magnetic field if we apply
> a reversed of the same strength? I assume it is like 10^-5 N/m2. Not very
> much to exploit commercially. What happens when we come far from earth?
> What magnetic field is there?
>
> We can apply a stronger reversed field but need in this case som gyros to
> stabilise us and to reverse the torque force. Can someone tell me about the
> strongest possible gyrostabilizers. Are they mentioned in Guiness Book of
> Records? If a good gyro was anchored to the magnetic device maybe a lift
> could be acheived.
>
> Another way of making gravity less (but not reverse it) is to rotate
> an object. General Relativity says the object will be less attracted
> to eart than a stationary one.

Ever heard of MHD (magneto-hydo-dynamic) propulsion ?

This propulsion system uses electro-magnetic field, this means varying
magnetic field. By ionizing the surrounding matter, air, water or even very spare
matter as in space it is possible to push on it.
So we don't rely on a pre-existing magnetic field which is any way very weak.
And get even weaker when we get far from earth.

Suppose your system, how would you change direction without changing the objects
angle relative to the earth field. Lenticular UFOs are travelling
horizontally regarding their flat surface and the earth surface.

       __________
     _/          \_  UFO movement -->
      \__________/
                     Magnetic field -> or <- or .. but horizontal.

 _________________________Earth_____


So the spiral plane is parallel to the earth magnetic field.
Is the Meissner effect still working ?
How do you explain what looks like a plasma around seen objects ?

How will you explain UFO "nests" or earth burn where they landed ?

A simple explaination for me is induction. But for this we need electro-magnetic
fields, just what the MHD requires.

About the suppraconducting coil... Ever thought about the effect on the occupent
or the devices in the objects ? The effect of the magnetic field I mean ?
Ever computed the size of the coil required to produce the magnetic field ?
It's size would be such that he internal repulsive force it would create,
I'm afraid, would blast it or would make it loose it's supraconducting state.

For MHD all these problems have now their realistic solution.
Their are not yet all published, so I can not talk about all of them but it looks
to me more and more plausible.

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Bien cordialement,

Ch. Meessen






From: [e-mail] (Farleymeister)
Subject: Re: AntiGravity / Biefeld-Brown
Date: 12 Jan 94 09:58:44 GMT
Organization: University of Montana

In article <2gniu2$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Chris Perrott) writes:
>
> So what you need is a saucer-shaped vehicle with a superconducting coil
> around the rim. Hmm.
>
> Chris Perrott

You asked for it...

I got this from a local BBS, the Disco hospital.

begin included file




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                          listed on KeelyNet as UFO6.ZIP

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            The following article was published as a two part series in the
       February and March   issues  of  "The  UFO  Enigma".   This  is  the
       newsletter of the UFO Study Group  of  Greater St. Louis, Inc.  This
       article could be  placed  under  more  than one catagory.   Comments
       anyone???

                                                               KEN HANKE

       --------------------------------------------------------------------

                                   NIKOLA TESLA
                               MAN AHEAD OF HIS TIME
                              (or How To Build a UFO)

                                   By Bill Jones

           Nikola Tesla,  inventor  of  alternating current motors, did the
       basic research for constructing electromagnetic field lift-and-drive
       aircraft/space craft.  From 1891 to  1893, he gave a set of lectures
       and demonstrations to groups of electrical engineers.   As  part  of
       each show, Tesla  stood  in the middle of the stage, using his 6' 6"
       height, with an assistant on either  side,  each 7 feet away.  All 3
       men wore thick cork or rubber shoe soles to avoid being electrically
       grounded.  Each assistant held a wire, part of a high  voltage,  low
       current circuit.  When  Tesla  raised  his arms to each side, violet
       colored electricity jumped harmlessly  across  the  gaps between the
       men.  At high voltage and frequency in this arrangement, electricity
       flows over a surface, even the skin, rather than into it.  This is a
       basic circuit which could be used by aircraft / spacecraft.

            The hull  is  best  made double, of thin, machinable,  slightly
       flexible ceramic.  This  becomes a good electrical insulator, has no
       fire danger, resists any damaging  effects  of severe heat and cold,
       and has the  hardness  of  armor,  besides being easy  for  magnetic
       fields to pass through.

            The inner  hull is covered on it's outside by wedge shaped thin
       metal sheets of copper or aluminum,  bonded  to  the  ceramic.  Each
       sheet is 3  to 4 feet wide at the horizontal rim  of  the  hull  and
       tapers to a  few  inches wide at the top of the hull for the top set
       of metal sheets, or at the bottom  for  the  bottom  set  of sheets.
       Each sheet is separated on either side from the next sheet by 1 or 2
       inches of uncovered ceramic hull.  The top set of sheets  and bottom
       set of sheets  are  separated by about 6 inches of uncovered ceramic
       hull around the horizontal rim of the hull.

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            The outer hull protects these sheets from being short-circuited
       by wind blown  metal  foil  (Air Force radar confusing chaff), heavy
       rain or concentrations   of  gasoline   or   kerosene   fumes.    If
       unshielded, fuel fumes could be electrostatically attracted  to  the
       hull sheets, burn  and  form  carbon  deposits across the insulating
       gaps between the sheets, causing  a  short-circuit.   The space, the
       outer hull with  a  slight negative charge, would absorb  hits  from
       micro-meteorites and cosmic  rays  (protons moving at near the speed
       of light).  Any danger of this type  that  doesn't  already  have  a
       negative electric charge would get a negative charge  in hitting the
       outer hull, and  be repelled by the metal sheets before it could hit
       the inner hull.  This wouldn't work  well  on  a  very big meteor, I
       might add.

            The hull can be made in a variety of shapes; sphere,  football,
       disc, or streamlined  rectangle  or triangle, as long as these metal
       sheets, "are of  considerable  area   and   arranged   along   ideal
       enveloping surfaces of very large radii of curvature,"  p.  85.  "My
       Inventions" , by Nikola Tesla.

            The power  plant  for  this machine can be a nuclear fission or
       fusion reactor for long range and  long-term  use  to  run  a  steam
       engine which turns the generators.  A short range machine  can use a
       hydrogenoxygen fuel cell  to  run  a  low-voltage  motor to turn the
       generators, occasionally recharging by hovering next to high voltage
       power lines and using antennas mounted  on the outer hull to take in
       the electricity.  The short-range machine can also  have electricity
       beamed to it  from  a  generating  plan  on  a long-range aircraft /
       spacecraft or on the ground.

       (St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Nov. 24, 1987, Vol 109, No. 328,
       "The Forever Plane" by Geoffrey Rowan, p.D1, D7.)

       ("Popular Science", Vol 232, No. 1,  Jan. 1988, "Secret of Perpetual
       Flight?  Beam Power Plane," by Arthur Fisher, p. 62-65, 106)

            One standard for the generators is to have the  same  number of
       magnets as field  coils.   Tesla's  preferred design was a thin disc
       holding 480 magnets with 480 field coils wired in series surrounding
       it in close tolerance.  At 50 revolutions  per  minute,  it produces
       19,400 cycles per second.

            The electricity is fed into a number of large  capacitors,  one
       for each metal  sheet.  An automatic switch, adjustable in timing by
       the pilot, closes, and as the electricity  jumps  across the switch,
       back and forth,  it raises it's own frequency; a switch  being  used
       for each capacitor.

            The electricity  goes  into  a  Tesla  transformer;  again, one
       transformer for each capacitor.   In  an  oil  tank  to insulate the
       windings and for  cooling,  and  supported internally  by  wood,  or
       plastic, pipe and  fittings,  each  Tesla  transformer  looks like a
       short wider pipe that is moved along  a  longer, narrower pipe by an
       insulated non-electric cable handle.  The short pipe,  the  primary,
       is 6 to  10 windings (loops) of wire connected in series to the long
       pipe.  The secondary is 460 to 600  windings, at the low voltage and
       frequency end.

            The insulated non-electric cable handle is used through a set

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       of automatic controls  to move the primary coil to various places on
       the secondary coil.  This is the frequency  control.   The secondary
       coil has a low frequency and voltage end and a maximum  voltage  and
       frequency end.  The  greater the frequency the electricity, the more
       it pushes against  the  earth's  electrostatic  and  electromagnetic
       fields.

            The electricity  comes  out  of  the transformer  at  the  high
       voltage end and  goes  by  wire through the ceramic hull to the wide
       end of the metal sheet.  The electricity jumps out on and flows over
       the metal sheet,  giving off a very  strong  electromagnetic  field,
       controlled by the  transformer.   At  the narrow end  of  the  metal
       sheet, most of  the  high-voltage  push  having  been given off, the
       electricity goes back by wire through  the hull to a circuit breaker
       box (emergency shut off), then to the other side of the generators.

            In bright  sunlight,  the  aircraft  /  spacecraft   may   seem
       surrounded by hot  air,  a  slight magnetic distortion of the light.
       In semi-darkness and night, the metal  sheets glow, even through the
       thin ceramic outer hull, with different colors.  The  visible  light
       is a by-product  of  the  electricity flowing over the metal sheets,
       according to the frequencies used.

            Descending, landing or just starting  to  lift from the ground,
       the transformer primaries  are  near  the secondary  weak  ends  and
       therefore, the bottom  set of sheets glow a misty red.  Red may also
       appear at the front of the machine  when  it is moving forward fast,
       lessening resistance up  front.   Orange  appears  for  slow  speed.
       Orange-yellow are for  airplane-type speeds.  Green and blue are for
       higher speeds.  With a capacitor addition,  making  it oversized for
       the circuit, the blue becomes bright white, like a searchlight, with
       possible risk of  damaging the metal sheets involved.   The  highest
       visible frequency is violet, like Tesla's stage demonstrations, used
       for the highest  speed  along with the bright white.  The colors are
       nearly coherent, of a single frequency, like a laser.

            A machine built with a set of  super  conducting  magnets would
       simplify and reduce  electricity needs from a vehicle's  transformer
       circuits to the  point of flying along efficiently and hovering with
       little electricity.

            When Tesla was developing arc  lights  to  run  on  alternating
       current, there was  a  bothersome  high-pitched whine,  whistle,  or
       buzz, due to  the electrodes rapidly heating and cooling.  Tesla put
       this noise in  the ultrasonic range  with  the  special  transformer
       already mentioned.  The aircraft / spacecraft gives  off such noises
       when working at low frequencies.

            Timing is  important  in  the  operation  of this machine.  For
       every 3 metal sheets, when the middle one is briefly turned off, the
       sheet on either side is energized,  giving  off  the magnetic field.
       The next instant, the middle sheet is energized, while  the sheet on
       either side is  briefly  turned  off.   There is a time delay in the
       capacitors recharging themselves,  so  at  any time, half of all the
       metal sheets are  energized  and  the  other  half  are  recharging,
       alternating all around  the  inner hull.  This balances the machine,
       giving it very good stability.  This balance is less when fewer of
       the circuits are in use.


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            Fairly close,  the  aircraft  /  spacecraft produces heating of
       persons and objects on the ground;  but  by hovering over an area at
       low altitude for maybe 5 or 10 minutes, the machine  also produces a
       column of very  cold  air  down to the ground.  As air molecules get
       into the strong magnetic fields that  the  machine  is  transmitting
       out, the air molecules become polarized and from lines,  or strings,
       of air molecules.   The  normal  movement of the air is stopped, and
       there is suddenly a lot more room for air molecules in this area, so
       more air pours in.  This expansion and the lack of normal air motion
       make the area intensely cold.

            This is also the reason that  the aircraft / spacecraft can fly
       at supersonic speeds without making sonic booms.  As  air flows over
       the hull, top  and  bottom,  the air molecules form lines as they go
       through the magnetic fields of the metal sheet circuits.  As the air
       molecules are left behind, they keep  their  line arrangements for a
       short time,long enough to cancel out the sonic boom shock waves.

            Outside the  earth's magnetic field, another propulsion  system
       must be used,  which  relies  on  the  first.   You may have read of
       particle accelerators, or cyclotrons,  or atom smashers.  A particle
       accelerator is a  circular  loop of pipe that, in cross-section,  is
       oval.  In a physics laboratory, most of the air in it is pumped out.
       The pipe loop  is  given a static electric charge, a small amount of
       hydrogen or other  gas is given the  same  electric  charge  so  the
       particles won't stick  to  the  pipe.   A set of electromagnets  all
       around the pipe  loop  turn on and off, one after the other, pushing
       with one magnetic pole and pulling  with  the  next, until those gas
       particles are racing  around the pipe loop at nearly  the  speed  of
       light.  Centrifugal force  makes  the  particles speed closer to the
       outside edge of the pipe loop, still within the pipe.  The particles
       break down into electrons, or light  and  other wavelengths, protons
       or cosmic rays, and neutrons if more than hydrogen  is  put  in  the
       accelerator.

            At least 2 particle accelerators are used to balance each other
       and counter each   other's   tendency   to   make  the  craft  spin.
       Otherwise, the machine  would  tend   to  want  to  start  spinning,
       following the direction of the force being applied to the particles.
       The accelerators push in opposite directions.

            As the  pilot  and crew travel in space, outside  the  magnetic
       field of a  world,  water from a tank is electrically separated into
       oxygen and hydrogen.  Waste carbon  dioxide  that isn't used for the
       onboard garden, and  hydrogen  (helium  if the machine  is  using  a
       fusion reactor) is  slowly, constantly fed into the inside curves of
       both accelerators.

            The high speed particles go  out  through  straight  lengths of
       pipe, charged like the loops and in speeding out  into  space,  push
       the machine along.   Doors  control  which  pips the particles leave
       from.  This allows   very  long   range   acceleration   and   later
       deceleration at normal  (earth)  gravity.   This avoids  the  severe
       problems of weightlessness,  including lowered physical abilities of
       the crew.

            It is possible to use straight-line particle accelerators, even
       as few as one per machine, but these  don't  seem as able to get the
       best machine speed for the least amount of particles pushed out.

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            Using a  constant  acceleration  of  32.2  feet  per second per
       second provides earth  normal gravity  in  deep  space  and  only  2
       gravities of stress in leaving the earth's gravity field.  It takes,
       not counting air resistance, 18 minutes, 58.9521636 seconds to reach
       the 25,000 miles per hour speed to leave the earth's  gravity field.
       It takes about 354 days, 12 hours, 53 minutes and 40 seconds (about)
       to reach the  speed  of  light  -  672,487,072.7 miles per hour.  It
       takes the same distance to decelerate  as  it  does to speed up, but
       this cuts down  the time delay that one would have  in  conventional
       chemical rocketry enormously, for a long journey.

            A set of superconducting magnets can be charged by metal sheet
       circuits, within limits,  to  whatever  frequency is needed and will
       continue to transmit   that   magnetic    field   frequency   almost
       indefinitely.

            A shortwave  radio  can  be used to find the exact  frequencies
       that an aircraft  /  spacecraft  is using, for each of the colors it
       may show whole a color television  can  show  the same overall color
       frequency that the nearby, but not extremely close,  craft  is using
       This is limited,  as  a  machine  traveling  at  the  speed of a jet
       airliner may broadcast in a frequency  range  usually used for radar
       sets.

            The craft  circuits  override  lower frequency,  lower  voltage
       electric circuits within and near their electromagnetic fields.  One
       source briefly mentioned  a  1941  incident, where a shortwave radio
       was used to override automobile  ignition  systems,  up  to  3 miles
       away.  When the shortwave radio was turned off, the  cars could work
       again.  How many   UFO   encounters  have  been  reported  in  which
       automobile ignition systems have suddenly stopped?

            I figure that things would not  be  at all pleasant for drivers
       of modern cars with computer controlled engine and ignition systems.
       Computer circuitry is sensitive to small changes  in  voltage  and a
       temporary wrong-way voltage  surge may wipe the computer memory out.
       It could mean that a number of drivers  would  suddenly  be stranded
       with their cars not working should such a craft fly  low over a busy
       highway.  Only diesel   engines,  already  warmed  up,  and  Stanley
       Steamer type steam engine cares are  able  to  continue working in a
       strong electromagnetic field.   In May, 1988, it was  reported  that
       the U.S. Army had lost 5 Blackhawk helicopters and 22 crewmen in
       crashes caused by  ordinary commercial radio broadcasting overriding
       the computer control  circuits  of  those  helicopters.   Certainly,
       computer circuits for for this aircraft / spacecraft can and must be
       designed to overcome this weakness.

            One construction  arrangement  for  this craft  to  avoid  such
       interference is for  the  metal  sheet  circuits  to be more sharply
       tuned.  Quartz or other crystals  can  be  used  in capacitors; in a
       very large number of low-powered, single frequency  circuits,  or as
       part of a frequency control for the metal sheet circuits.

            The aircraft  / spacecraft easily overrides lower frequency and
       lower voltage electric circuits up  to  a  6 mile wide circle around
       it, but the effect is usually not tuned for such a drastic show.  It
       can be used for fire fighting: by hovering at a medium-low height at
       low frequency, it forms a double negative pole magnet  of itself and
       the ground, the sides being a rotation of positive magnetic pole.

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            It polarizes  the column of air in this field.  The air becomes
       icy cold.  If it wouldn't put the fire out, it would slow it down.

            Tesla went broke in the early  1900's  building  a  combination
       radio and electric  power  broadcasting  station.   The  theory  and
       experiments were correct  but  the  financiers didn't want peace and
       prosperity for all.

            The Japanese physicist who developed  superconducting  material
       with strong magnetism  allows for a simplified construction  of  the
       aircraft / spacecraft.  Blocks of this material can be used in place
       of the inner  hull  metal  sheets.   By  putting electricity in each
       block, the pilot can control the strength  of  the magnetic field it
       gives off and can reduce the field strength by draining  some of the
       electric charge.  This  allows  the  same  amount of work to be done
       with vastly less electricity used to do it.

            It is  surprising  that  Jonathan  Swift,  in  his  "Gulliver's
       Travels", 1726, third  book,  "A  Voyage  to Laputa",  described  an
       imagined magnetic flying  island  that  comes  close to being what a
       large superconducting aircraft / spacecraft  can  be build as, using
       little or no electric power to hover and mover around.

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From: [e-mail] (David Jonsson)
Subject: Re: AntiGravity / Biefeld-Brown
Date: 12 Jan 94 15:32:11 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University


Christophe Meessen ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <2gsm1h$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David Jonsson) writes:
: > This is possible. Look at the superconductor and ideal diamagnetism.
: > Only when the applied field is exactly as strong and reversed as the external
: > field a torque free force can be accomplished. This is the Meissner effect.

: Ever heard of MHD (magneto-hydo-dynamic) propulsion ?

Yes but this is powerconsumtioning which Meissner-hoovering isn't.
This seems like a very energy consuming way of propulsion. Just like current
rocketengines. You would gain very little in this.

: So we don't rely on a pre-existing magnetic field which is any way very weak.

The Meissner-hoovering is actually done by the earth and the UFO is the magnet.

:        __________
:      _/          \_  UFO movement -->
:       \__________/
:                      Magnetic field -> or <- or .. but horizontal.

:  _________________________Earth_____

A MHD propulsed UFO has to tilt very much to produce the very high
accelerations seen by UFOs. A Meissner UFO has to tilt very little to
accelerate. The picture you draw is in my favour.

: So the spiral plane is parallel to the earth magnetic field.
: Is the Meissner effect still working ?

The coils plane is parallell to gravity when hoovering. It is slightly
tilted to moove horisontally.

: How do you explain what looks like a plasma around seen objects ?
: How will you explain UFO "nests" or earth burn where they landed ?

As the UFO is mooving at several thousands mph it gets hot and surrounding
air becomes plasma. When the UFO lands the soil gets burned.

: About the suppraconducting coil... Ever thought about the effect on the occupent
: or the devices in the objects ? The effect of the magnetic field I mean ?
: Ever computed the size of the coil required to produce the magnetic field ?
: It's size would be such that he internal repulsive force it would create,
: I'm afraid, would blast it or would make it loose it's supraconducting state.

The materials to produce the Meissnerhoovering does not exist today.
The field inside the UFO has to be shielded to protect the travellers and
the internal equipment.

: For MHD all these problems have now their realistic solution.
: Their are not yet all published, so I can not talk about all of them but it looks
: to me more and more plausible.

Again, the methods you present are very energy consuming.

More critisism to my UFO model is welcome. I just wait for fields at about
200-300 Tesla to be available. I will then begin experimenting.

David

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